Is anyone else disappointed that both developers (IW and 3arc) have failed to develop expansion map packs from areas of the game? IW even went so far as to recycle a couple maps from the first MW for MW2, and still had the balls to charge us full price for the map packs!!

3arc seems to be releasing maps that don't even have a place in the game. At least they are new maps, and not recycled from WaW or something, but I'd like to see maps that are based on the game itself, and not just created from some developers imagination. Maybe it's just me, but I don't recall seeing Stadium, Zoo or Convoy in the game.

Ok, that's enough griping from me.

YES DARK!!!!

FINALLY! More than me.

ALL games get soooo phucking boring when it's random maps that 'seemed' like a cool idea to put in the game. in WaW the maps were EPIC they BROUGHT THE GAME TOGETHER. These new ones BLOW.

/rant

hmm.. The new maps to RaM is just like Micky D's. I'm loving it... Espically Stockpile.. Not from the game.. However a very good map layout for objective based games..

Maybe i'll take up recreational drinking. I'll maybe enjoy the game more.

I agree Ram. A lot of the maps are good maps, but I was a little disappointed that they were not from the game.

I think I like all the new maps they've come out with. Favorites so far are Zoo, Stockpile, Hanoi and that snowy map from the first map pack.

well it has always suprised me that they give up on map packs when a new game comes out...marketing i guess...

do some of the maps make sense? no, but lets be honest, how many diff variations can you make of a map...

i look at the map as a place, i realy dont notice the graphics...xcept maybe the first time...but people are always showing me things i missed, because i am too focused on the other team...

what I like about maps is an "common area" where both teams can meet and fight, this might best be described as "point B"...i hang out ther even when we arnt playing DOM

I also like defendable areas, to try to defend or conquor.

I'm not realy into maps where you have to jump,climb,jumb,climb to a place cuz i alwas get shot trying to sneak to those places...

i have a list of favs, BUT i suk at learning the map names...

I like Asylum on WAW, Highrise on MW2, i also like the small ones like rust and nuketown...less snipers and more ACTION, which is why i play COD...

Yes sir I'm also a fan of the small maps. They need to bring shipment back.. That was a great map.

It's funy you should mention point B on the maps l4l. I was looking over the recent matches in my combat record, and almost all of them had a high concentration of action at what would be point B on just about every map.

Shipment was a crazy small map!! So small that it actually makes Nuketown look big!

But yeah, small maps can be pretty fun sometimes. Probably cus of the constant action. Even though I always dread Nuketown being picked in the lobby, I almost always do pretty well on it.

I also dread NukeTown.. No one of my favs. If you have a team that understand the spawns it is AWESOME.. However when you are playing with randoms that constantly flip the spawn it can suck ass...

I think you tend to get a 'Point B' due to the spawning system. I'm kind of just putting 2 and 2 together but with the way the spawn system works it just kind of encourages it almost.

small maps are what make CoD.... Shipment, then Dome, then I didn't have MW2, then Nuketown.... They should make a game with ONLY the small maps of each CoD game. Like refine the map upto current quality, and publish it on the XBOX Live store or something....

MW2 had Rust. It was probably about as small a foot print as Shipment, but had more vertical surfaces to fight from/on.

I would have to agree on the small to medium maps being funner than the larger maps, unless you just want to snipe. It's never really much fun to have to sprint for 20 miles just to reach your objective after you've re-spawned.

I think WaW nailed the larger maps though. Makin didn't blow and Cliffside for what it's worth was great. I think what types of maps you have depend on the weapons I suppose. With WaW you had a lot of variation. You had SMGs, semi-auto rifles, Heavy MGs and Snipers along with Bolt-Action Rifles. The only problem with that in games that use advanced warfare like Black Ops and MW2 is that long range warfare went from rifles to shooting 100 bullets out of an M60 and ruining the larger maps.

^^^^^^ this why WaW is the greatest, you could actually use the almost any gun on any map effectively without be a massive tryhard. Plus I miss the semi's especially the Gewehr.

I think World War 2 just brings that balance easier than say more Modern Warfare esque fighting. With World at War you had Rifles Bolt Action Rifles etc etc which were all GOOD. Since they were pretty effective people wanted to use them. With MW and Black Ops your semi autos all suck because people are running around with big ass machine guns.

Silenced gewers FTW!!!!

Absolutly scoped M1 for HC sniping.. I also like the KAR for a bolt action..

I second both of your opinions.